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		<title>By: B.Willey</title>
		<link>http://tdhurst.com/cant-we-all-just-get-along/comment-page-1#comment-1901</link>
		<dc:creator>B.Willey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 20:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s awesome. I&#039;m an idiot. Nice to meet you Bryan. Please excuse my defensive posturing and keep up the harassments.</description>
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		<title>By: tdhurst</title>
		<link>http://tdhurst.com/cant-we-all-just-get-along/comment-page-1#comment-1899</link>
		<dc:creator>tdhurst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 20:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude, that&#039;s my bro giving me shit. He does that from time to time.</description>
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		<title>By: B.Willey</title>
		<link>http://tdhurst.com/cant-we-all-just-get-along/comment-page-1#comment-1898</link>
		<dc:creator>B.Willey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 20:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow Bryan. Animosity at its best. Anyway, thank you for your desire to learn more about all the great things happening in and around Phoenix. I&#039;m not sure if you were referring to me, Tyler, Chuck, or Mark. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you were writing to me, I plan to write a post about my actual IgniteASU presentation when the video is released. The suspense must be killing you I know. Until then, you&#039;ll have to just trust that I, as a friend (or at least good acquaintance) of most of the people doing rad, healthy, productive things in Phoenix would not do anything to knowingly compete with them. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But you don&#039;t know me, and I don&#039;t know you. So I can understand if you don&#039;t trust me or believe me, or care at all. You posted anonymously and so I can&#039;t reach out to you to try to remedy our lack of acquaintance. Bummer. I&#039;m always around if you ever want to grab a cup of tea and chat.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;--------&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Tyler, thanks for the Update brother. You know I appreciate your voice here in Phoenix. It&#039;s deeply needed to help smack us around and wake us up from our stupor from time to time. Or always. Thanks again man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow Bryan. Animosity at its best. Anyway, thank you for your desire to learn more about all the great things happening in and around Phoenix. I&#39;m not sure if you were referring to me, Tyler, Chuck, or Mark. </p>
<p>If you were writing to me, I plan to write a post about my actual IgniteASU presentation when the video is released. The suspense must be killing you I know. Until then, you&#39;ll have to just trust that I, as a friend (or at least good acquaintance) of most of the people doing rad, healthy, productive things in Phoenix would not do anything to knowingly compete with them. </p>
<p>But you don&#39;t know me, and I don&#39;t know you. So I can understand if you don&#39;t trust me or believe me, or care at all. You posted anonymously and so I can&#39;t reach out to you to try to remedy our lack of acquaintance. Bummer. I&#39;m always around if you ever want to grab a cup of tea and chat.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Tyler, thanks for the Update brother. You know I appreciate your voice here in Phoenix. It&#39;s deeply needed to help smack us around and wake us up from our stupor from time to time. Or always. Thanks again man.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
		<link>http://tdhurst.com/cant-we-all-just-get-along/comment-page-1#comment-1891</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 May 2010 16:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You going to post something new, or are you just going to make us read this garbage for a few more days?</description>
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		<title>By: B.Willey</title>
		<link>http://tdhurst.com/cant-we-all-just-get-along/comment-page-1#comment-1890</link>
		<dc:creator>B.Willey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 08:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tyler, we&#039;ve already connected via DM and we&#039;ll connect tomorrow on the phone to hopefully straighten out the misconceptions behind the intentions and actual plans for Archipelago. We just had lunch this week together and I believe we are on the same page. I&#039;m 100% about unification and collaboration (as Derek &amp; Jade can attest to as well) and absolutely NOT about competition or reinventing the wheel. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Chuck, I&#039;m not really sure what you mean by it not being a big shocker. There really wasn&#039;t any meat to your comment so I don&#039;t know how to respond appropriately. I don&#039;t believe you were there at IgniteASU last night (I didn&#039;t see you anyway) and so you completely missed my presentation. Until you get a chance to learn more about it (or until we explain the movement better on the website - its weak, I know) it would be best not to make assumptions. If you&#039;d like to grab a beer or coffee with me and chat in person about this I&#039;m open over the next few weeks. Let me know. You know where to find me. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tyler, we&#39;ve already connected via DM and we&#39;ll connect tomorrow on the phone to hopefully straighten out the misconceptions behind the intentions and actual plans for Archipelago. We just had lunch this week together and I believe we are on the same page. I&#39;m 100% about unification and collaboration (as Derek &#038; Jade can attest to as well) and absolutely NOT about competition or reinventing the wheel. </p>
<p>Chuck, I&#39;m not really sure what you mean by it not being a big shocker. There really wasn&#39;t any meat to your comment so I don&#39;t know how to respond appropriately. I don&#39;t believe you were there at IgniteASU last night (I didn&#39;t see you anyway) and so you completely missed my presentation. Until you get a chance to learn more about it (or until we explain the movement better on the website &#8211; its weak, I know) it would be best not to make assumptions. If you&#39;d like to grab a beer or coffee with me and chat in person about this I&#39;m open over the next few weeks. Let me know. You know where to find me. <img src='http://tdhurst.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Reynolds</title>
		<link>http://tdhurst.com/cant-we-all-just-get-along/comment-page-1#comment-1889</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 00:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well lets just say the Archipelago wasn&#039;t a big shocker honestly to anybody... typical however</description>
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		<title>By: Mark Dudlik</title>
		<link>http://tdhurst.com/cant-we-all-just-get-along/comment-page-1#comment-1887</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Dudlik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, speaking to the things I&#039;m directly involved in, which is half of those, I think i can explain (partly) why you are wrong.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Firstly: fractal isn&#039;t in anyway the same or similar to Gangplank. Its an open space that invites people to come hang out and work, which is true of both, yes. But, that&#039;s also true of any library. fractal has actually started to become a concert venue as well. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Dojo Collective is literally related (philosophically) to none of these things in any way. Its a set of design initiatives. We&#039;re trying to bring a design museum and library to Phoenix. We&#039;re trying to create youth design mentoring programs. We&#039;re trying to help aid professional development. We&#039;re acting as the non-profit umbrella under which Phoenix Design Week happens. We do have an event similar to hacknight, but we only explain it as &quot;a night like hacknight, but for designers&quot; because thats an easy way to explain whats going on to those familiar with GP. How do we explain it to other groups? Its like a studio night with like-minded individuals. Its a way for designers to spend time working on their passion projects, and bounce ideas/collaborate with each other. Its also a way to talk about our work with each other, and discuss design. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for PechaKucha...yes, its exactly like Ignite. It was around before Ignite, globally, but not locally. I talked with some people at Ignite before I even approached the Tokyo organization about bringing the event to Phoenix. And, while someone else is actually in charge (much to the event&#039;s detriment) there&#039;s a valid reason that we chose to do PK instead of a Design Ignite. It was a simple matter of audience. The way I explained it is this: PechaKucha is designer/architects/creatives talking about their work to an industry audience. Its designers talking to designers. If we were to do a Design Ignite, it&#039;d be Designers talking about design to the general public. This small difference changes the nature of the presentations (technical/theory vs. What it is). PechaKucha was something people had been trying to bring to Phoenix for years (seriously, dating back to at least 2006/7)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Well, on to my main point however. For Me, Andrew (@courdek), Bully and others, there&#039;s one very important thing that you don&#039;t see happening when you say we&#039;re all competing: The conversations between these groups. Bully and myself have had long conversations with Derek about what we&#039;re doing with Dojo/fractal how it relates/doesn&#039;t relate, how we&#039;re not competing for the same audience, how we&#039;re supporting each other by addressing the needs of a different part of our communities. Me and Jeff talked in depth about the differences between PK and Ignite, and how both would be great for the community. We&#039;re all talking to each other, though maybe not as transparently as you&#039;d like.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So I&#039;d say...you&#039;re probably right about some of the competition in Phoenix, about some of the duplicated efforts. But, with your examples above, you&#039;re wrong. Which is okay, I&#039;m glad you&#039;re making us talk about why we&#039;re doing seemingly similar things. It gives us the excuse to share our process, share our collective goals and be transparent about our conversations and collaborations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, speaking to the things I&#39;m directly involved in, which is half of those, I think i can explain (partly) why you are wrong.</p>
<p>Firstly: fractal isn&#39;t in anyway the same or similar to Gangplank. Its an open space that invites people to come hang out and work, which is true of both, yes. But, that&#39;s also true of any library. fractal has actually started to become a concert venue as well. </p>
<p>Dojo Collective is literally related (philosophically) to none of these things in any way. Its a set of design initiatives. We&#39;re trying to bring a design museum and library to Phoenix. We&#39;re trying to create youth design mentoring programs. We&#39;re trying to help aid professional development. We&#39;re acting as the non-profit umbrella under which Phoenix Design Week happens. We do have an event similar to hacknight, but we only explain it as &#8220;a night like hacknight, but for designers&#8221; because thats an easy way to explain whats going on to those familiar with GP. How do we explain it to other groups? Its like a studio night with like-minded individuals. Its a way for designers to spend time working on their passion projects, and bounce ideas/collaborate with each other. Its also a way to talk about our work with each other, and discuss design. </p>
<p>As for PechaKucha&#8230;yes, its exactly like Ignite. It was around before Ignite, globally, but not locally. I talked with some people at Ignite before I even approached the Tokyo organization about bringing the event to Phoenix. And, while someone else is actually in charge (much to the event&#39;s detriment) there&#39;s a valid reason that we chose to do PK instead of a Design Ignite. It was a simple matter of audience. The way I explained it is this: PechaKucha is designer/architects/creatives talking about their work to an industry audience. Its designers talking to designers. If we were to do a Design Ignite, it&#39;d be Designers talking about design to the general public. This small difference changes the nature of the presentations (technical/theory vs. What it is). PechaKucha was something people had been trying to bring to Phoenix for years (seriously, dating back to at least 2006/7)</p>
<p>Well, on to my main point however. For Me, Andrew (@courdek), Bully and others, there&#39;s one very important thing that you don&#39;t see happening when you say we&#39;re all competing: The conversations between these groups. Bully and myself have had long conversations with Derek about what we&#39;re doing with Dojo/fractal how it relates/doesn&#39;t relate, how we&#39;re not competing for the same audience, how we&#39;re supporting each other by addressing the needs of a different part of our communities. Me and Jeff talked in depth about the differences between PK and Ignite, and how both would be great for the community. We&#39;re all talking to each other, though maybe not as transparently as you&#39;d like.</p>
<p>So I&#39;d say&#8230;you&#39;re probably right about some of the competition in Phoenix, about some of the duplicated efforts. But, with your examples above, you&#39;re wrong. Which is okay, I&#39;m glad you&#39;re making us talk about why we&#39;re doing seemingly similar things. It gives us the excuse to share our process, share our collective goals and be transparent about our conversations and collaborations.</p>
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